Talk:Jumper (2008 film)

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Comparison to novel[edit]

Anyone think we could/should make mention to the fact that the storyline is completely divergent from that of the novel? Basically the only similarity in the two stories are character names and the concept of "Jumping."Himynameishelen (talk) 23:34, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree; the divergence is a notworthy point. It's also noteworthy that Gould didn't mind; he said himself the original novel was largely introspective and would have made for a rather boring movie. DerekMBarnes (talk) 01:12, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oops; my bad. This is already in the Production section of the article. DerekMBarnes (talk) 01:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

plot section[edit]

Just me who thinks this should be a brief (5-10 lines) section giving an overview, rather than this mammoth block of text? Anyone mind if I hack it down to size? To my mind, it's way too detailed and becomes too much like narrative, rather than encyclopedic.Himynameishelen (talk) 23:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I did some trimming, but i think it could be reworded a little bit more. Rau J16 16:03, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I totally rewrote it as it was still HUGE and just read like a mini novel. What I've written probably isn't the best and could do with some tweaking, but what was there was so unnecessarily detailed that I felt it needed a clean start-there was really too much, too varied, too involved to just edit it down. If anyone has a problem with my edit, give me a holler.Himynameishelen (talk) 23:32, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Once again, someone has rewritten the plot section to make it HUGE- this should NOT be a novel, but a brief summary. Himynameishelen (talk) 15:20, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel L. Jackson[edit]

I pulled this out of the premise: "Samuel L. Jackson was last seen in Calgary, Alberta on July 10, 2006." It's too confusing of a statement. If it needs to be added in, add it into a Background subsection and provide more detail. Erik 18:12, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ann Arbor filming[edit]

Highly anecdotal evidence: while driving a taxicab, I took Max Thierot and a few others from a hotel to a restaurant, in downtown Ann Arbor on 2-22-2007

--Mr kitehead 18:26, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate that, but we need a citation so the information is verfiable to all, like the rest of the information in the article. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 19:51, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
About the most evidence I could supply is my driver log-sheet, which had the locations and time... but there's no way to prove who I had in the cab, so there's no point to that. Hence why I only put it in the discussion portion, and prefaced it as "anecdotal".

--Mr kitehead 19:19, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

yeah erik, geez Wikifried (talk) 13:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You do know I responded to this like a year ago? ;) I try to be a little nicer with people who have new information now. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 13:26, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Prequel Graphic Novel[edit]

There's gonna be a prequel graphic novel released, I'm behind a firewall, but you can get the info from www.comicbookresources.com Vicco Lizcano (talk) 19:48, 14 December 2007 (UTC) (Hey! Listen!)[reply]

I'll mention it within the week. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 20:17, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The article in question. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Whatweird.com[edit]

This website opened on October 17, 2007 with plugs in lonelygirl15 and KateModern videos. I joined the forums there around the same time, and recently a boy named Jack has been making videos at youtube with the username watchyourjack. A couple days ago the website began to show clues and signs like it has been from Suzie the webmaster's grandmother's ghost that have led us to believe that the website/forum/watchyourjack series is viral marketing/an ARG for this movie. It's probably worth looking at and possibly linking in this article. http://www.whatweird.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.130.37 (talk • contribs) 14:40, 7 January 2008

I'm not sure if I believe that a blog post on lg15.com is enough verifiability for the proof of this. I've googled and googled but can't find any other reference. Can someone clear me up? Supposedly lonefox101 and watchyourjack are "undercover" actors playing "jumpers" for the marketing of the film, and 20th Century Fox publically announcing this? --Dan LeveilleTALK 03:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is David's father dead?[edit]

The article states baldly that William is dead, but that's not clear from the movie. He's left in the hospital, and that's that. Corvus cornixtalk 07:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've just got back from seeing the movie (well, I say seeing it, didn't do much watching as frankly it was awful) and I think it's pretty clear he's dead. The paladins certainly don't mess about with their work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.100.90.208 (talk) 23:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't David have said something to his mom if his dad was dead? That seems like something pretty important. "Hey mom, you're a paladin, I'm a jumper, Roland killed dad." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.226.139.154 (talk) 00:53, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, you're right.

-G —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 19:10, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No absolute proof in the film that he was dead (watched it yesterday), so the article should not say so. Presumptions are no basis for encyclopedic information. And a word to "unsigned:" please leave your personal opinions out of talk pages in the future (WP policies). DerekMBarnes (talk) 01:19, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, he is dead. after Roland killed him, David took a while to come back. So the heart would have stopped by then from the lack of blood. But who cares, the dad was evil. (Unknown user)

It's never specifically said or confirmed in the movie, but it is implied and would make sense (like the last guy said). But for all we know he could be alive and well after recovering in the hospitol... or dead. And the dad wasn't evil, just kind of a jerk. Rubixmike14 (talk) 16:27, 5 March 2009

Terminology[edit]

I am going to make a section with terms and subjective definitions. This way, they do not need to be explained in the plot section, allowing it to be shorter. Rau J16 16:04, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jumper: Griffin's Story[edit]

I began this article on the associated game. If anyone is interested, please help expand it and make it better. I'll probably get back to it tomorrow. Grandmasterka 09:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Novel VS Film[edit]

I know that it is stated that the film is different from the novel, but since the two share some similarities, would it be worthwhile to have a section detailing the differences? I have seen this type of section in other articles of films based on novels. -Rgb9000 (talk) 03:39, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, but since the film is an intermarriage of the first novel and Jumper: Griffin's Story, there are numerous differences that would probably fill up another page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.188.33.13 (talk) 14:13, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jumper: Griffin's Story is based on the film, not vice-versa. Barsoomian (talk) 12:27, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I aggre two, the film and the novel should have some notable differences and similarities.Grimmjow E6 (talk) 19:37, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We've been talking about including the film's divergence from the novel (see "Comparison to novel" above), but to detail every difference in my opinion would clutter the article with unnecessary info. DerekMBarnes (talk) 01:22, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Two questions[edit]

Why is the verb "jump" spelled with an uppercase J throughout the article? What is the meaning of the James Valentine link under "See Also"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.130.4.46 (talk) 13:49, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It shouldn't be, unless it's at the beginning of a sentence. We might see to getting that fixed. DerekMBarnes (talk) 01:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It refers to the fictional act of "Jumping", which if you watched the film is a type of teleporting. It is a noun therefore has a capital 'J'. "Jump" does not refer to the act of moving up and down; e.g. high-jump. It is its own thing, thus, if you had taken an English class before in your life would know that it starts with a capital J. 125.236.154.70 (talk) 05:35, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What's with the juvenile condescension? While English usage allows for occasional special context-based capitalization for nouns, verbs don't lend themselves as well to the use, and context is entirely adequate (the movie and article titles are "Jumper") for grasping that the guy isn't leaping puddles. Learn some manners if you're going to do Wiki. In fact, the same context rule probably really goes for the nouns too, since it's not like they're proper nouns, and the practice could go overboard and get hard to read; the caps practice is kind of archaic. 98.247.105.60 (talk) 07:18, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, Thats just the way I talk to people who think they know what they're talking about. I have been subject to the script and own the novel, I know the universe in which this is set, do not patronize me without justification/or without you knowing the true nature of the topic. Cheers 125.236.154.157 (talk) 10:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citation dump[edit]

Headlines. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 22:49, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GAN[edit]

I've nominated the article for GA assessment. I recently reworked the page by expanding the production section and adding sources for the majority of the information that needed it. Please take a look and make sure there are no mistakes before it is reviewed. Good work to everyone in improving the article! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 06:45, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Potential Trivia[edit]

Roland is the name of Charlemagne's chief Paladin and the name of the head "Paladin" in the film

Can't see a mention of this, wonder if it is worth noting? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.118.205 (talk) 01:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unless the Jumper crew verifies the parallel, it has no place in the article. WP isn't too fond of trivia anyway. DerekMBarnes (talk) 01:30, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jumper (film)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review. GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

This article is in decent shape, but it needs more work before it becomes a Good Article.

  1. Is it well written?
    A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
    In the Plot section, "movie" should be replaced with "film".
    I rewrote portions of the plot and removed a portion of the sentence referencing the film itself. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 03:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you Nehrams2020 and check. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
    Seeing other articles, shouldn't the cast section be bolded, (ex: Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith). The article tends to have "red links", if they don't have articles, it would be best to un-link them, per here.
    I bolded the cast section and removed two of the red links. I think the rest have the possibility of being created as articles in the future. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 03:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Whoops, I removed them all. I think that you should reinsert them when the articles have actually been created, because they could take a while [to be created]. Corn.u.co.pia ♥ Disc.us.sion 13:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Check. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
    A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
    B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
    Does Reference 40 cover all this ---> "A video game titled Jumper: Griffin's Story was made for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 2, and Wii consoles. The storyline focuses on the character Griffin as he attempts to avenge the death of his parents. Nicholas Longano of the video game publisher Brash Entertainment stated, "From the very first script read, we knew this had to be made into a game. The teleportation elements make for some very compelling gameplay"?
    This reference does cover all three sentences. When referencing statements, my priority is to make sure all questionable content is sourced, and would have used two references to cover all three statements. If desired, I can use the reference multiple times, but the sentence concerning the different platforms and the plot of the game didn't seem necessary to source. Let me know if you want me to reuse the current inline citation. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 03:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    That's alright, as long as the source covers the info., then its fine and check. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    C. It contains no original research:
    D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
    B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
  4. Is it neutral?
    It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
    In the Box office performance section, this ---> "in the hopes of pulling in business on Valentine's Day", sounds like POV.
    This is from the reference provided. Since the film was targeted at both men and women, it was believed that more tickets could be sold for Valentine's dates. Let me know if you need further clarification. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 03:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the explaining it and check. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Is it stable?
    It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
  6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    If the statements above can be answered, I will pass the article. Good luck with improving this article! Also, contact me if the above statements are answered.

--  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:24, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, after reading the article, I have gone off and passed the article. Congratulations. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to a GA review. Thank you to Nehrams and Corn.u.co.pia who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

External Links[edit]

I added a link to MovieMistakes.com, which is a pretty big website, yet it was removed. How come? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SexyIrishLeprechaun (talk • contribs) 14:18, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First, one of the submissions to Movie Mistakes is yours, calling into question the verifiability of the material. Second, Movie Mistakes is a trivia site for minor "hiccups" in a film, hardly the stuff of encyclopedic reference. I didn't remove the link, but I don't disagree with the action. DerekMBarnes (talk) 22:52, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Critical reception[edit]

Is there any? I won't add this part cause I'm not a native speaker and i didn't see the original version of this movie. --91.96.153.232 (talk) 22:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

the jumpers the 3 jumper names david aj michael

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.38.175.203 (talk) 06:53, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jackson did not replace Eminem.[edit]

It seems as if someone randomly placed the snippet "replace for rapper Eminem in Jumper" in the [Casting] section. There are various sources here that state he was to play the main role. I went ahead and verified this with a cached link of the original source which says nothing about Eminem at all and only states what the sentence is actually about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vince Navarro (talk • contribs) 06:06, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Set Director's Death[edit]

I only know of this film due to the death of the set director who was crushed under tonnes of concrete parts during dismantling, but it hasn't even got a mention. It's one of the few instances of horrific tragedies in film making, perhaps someone close to this article could add it? BaSH PR0MPT (talk) 04:07, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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