Talk:Minong Mine Historic District

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Did you know... that in 1874, a 5720 pound copper nugget whose surface had been worked by prehistoric miners was discovered at the Minong Mine?

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Mystery or crankery?[edit]

I found the following passage in Salvatore M. Trento:

Furthermore, metallurgical engineers estimate that more than a billion pounds of copper were mined in this region: to date, this amount of mined copper has not been found in the United States! Author Henriette Mertz, who has extensively studied this mystery, once wrote: "This incredible amount of copper has not been accounted for by American archeologists -- the sum total according to archeological findings here in the states amounts to a mere handful of copper beads and trinkets -- float copper. Five thousand tons of pure copper does not just disintegrate into thin air -- it cannot be sneezed away -- it must be somewhere..."

(Quotation taken from his Field Guide to Mysterious Place of the West, p. 16; ISBN 0-87108-851-7) Trento goes on to suggest that this copper ore was exported by ancient European seafarers -- such as inhabitants of the proto-historic Hispanic peninsula. Now for reasons I won't go into here I'm skeptical about much of what he writes in this book, but his work is clearly not on the level of the writings of cranks like Erich von Däniken, & this puzzle seems to be something that should be included in Wikipedia -- maybe not in this article -- in order to present all sides of the issue. -- llywrch (talk) 19:09, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is some mention of this already in the article Copper mining in Michigan, which I think is a more appropriate place, as it's a general regional article about the region as a whole, rather than about a very specific place. Although I should point out that "5000 tons of pure copper" = 10 million pounds, not "more than a billion pounds." I'm not sure I'd put much stock in a source that is self-contradictory, within two sentences, by two orders of magnitude. Andrew Jameson (talk) 23:35, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That works for me. I missed the contradiction in the figures; I was more concerned about the assertion that the recovered materials amount to only "float copper". When one considers that Native American artifacts of made of copper are unusual enough that many examples would be destroyed or dismissed as forgeries -- & that most existing examples likely remain to be discovered -- the small number reported fails to prove anything. And I could add more. -- llywrch (talk) 03:33, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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